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one more reason to Conceal Carry.
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Sorry, it a private establishes posts 'no gun signs' doesn't matter if you OC or CC now does it?
Further, even if the 'no gun sign's do not carry the weight of law in your state, failure to carry now opens the individual to possible judical issue for trespass.
Surely, you are not advocating on a public forum, that members/readers ignore private establishments 'no gun signs' and carry their firearms anyway?
Sir, i am not publicly encouraging trespassing on private property, a cops job is to protect people, "me", "you" and even the people asking him not to carry in the pizza place. those people still deserve to be protected. if that Pizza place were to be robbed right now. they will call 911 the first chance they get and i am sure the dispatch cops are gonna carry guns. LOL. its funny to me. i won't it at a place where i can't protect myself and family. just my 0.2 cents.????
Sorry, it a private establishes posts 'no gun signs' doesn't matter if you OC or CC now does it?
Further, even if the 'no gun sign's do not carry the weight of law in your state, failure to carry now opens the individual to possible judical issue for trespass.
Surely, you are not advocating on a public forum, that members/readers ignore private establishments 'no gun signs' and carry their firearms anyway?
Sir, i am not publicly encouraging trespassing on private property, a cops job is to protect people, "me", "you" and even the people asking him not to carry in the pizza place. those people still deserve to be protected. if that Pizza place were to be robbed right now. they will call 911 the first chance they get and i am sure the dispatch cops are gonna carry guns. LOL. its funny to me. i won't it at a place where i can't protect myself and family. just my 0.2 cents.
I advocate for the carrying of concealed guns past any 'no guns' signs, just as long as there isn't a metal detector & security inside--those places don't have the right to take away my right to carry, unless they are going to protect me while I'm in their place of business & as long as they don't know, it doesn't make the least bit of difference to either of us
That is your moral & ethical decision to make, however, to advocate such lawlessness on a very public forum, is not truly prudent from a practical point of view as your statement 'could/would' be used against you in judicial/civil proceedings.
Those 'places' do have the RIGHT as they are private property!
WOW!!!Alas, the USSC decided LEs do not have to respond to any citizen's emergency and as the judical system recently decided in parkland fl, nor to protect this nation's citizens.
I like that you think this forum is 'very public' --do we even have 20 people on here who post?
Anyhow I would be glad to shout it from the rooftops--Honest citizen lives take precedence over those of people too dumb to take precautions against a pos criminal who cares nothing for the law--I am tired of the uselessly stupid 'no gun' zones that only serve to help criminals, by disarming the innocent.
Now if you wish to allow some idiot politician who has his own armed security detail make your life decisions, that's on you-- but count me out
Now by a show of hands, who here thinks politicians are good people who only take the job of telling us what to do for our own good?
I don't see any hands raised--How about You?
The other is that cops are too heavy...One more reason to Conceal Carry.
The other is that cops are too heavy...
I advocate for the carrying of concealed guns past any 'no guns' signs, just as long as there isn't a metal detector & security inside--those places don't have the right to take away my right to carry, unless they are going to protect me while I'm in their place of business & as long as they don't know, it doesn't make the least bit of difference to either of us
From what I'm getting out of this thread....some folks are gritty with some other folks, some folks are long winded, and all in all, something happened with a LEO at a pizza place that folks don't like, which turned out to be a mistake on the part of the pizza place employee. Lots of excitement going on here, fellas
As for advocating for folks to enter privately owned premises that fly "No Guns" signs...
I'm a bit new to AZ, and welcome any citation of AZ law that says this is illegal. Only thing I can find refers to premises where liquor licenses are posted.
ARS 4.229 - Posting notice
A. A person may carry a concealed handgun on the premises of a licensee who is an on-sale retailer unless the licensee posts a sign that clearly prohibits the possession of weapons on the licensed premises. The sign shall conform to the following requirements:
B. A person shall not carry a firearm on the licensed premises of an on-sale retailer if the licensee has posted the notice prescribed in subsection A of this section.
- Be posted in a conspicuous location accessible to the general public and immediately adjacent to the liquor license posted on the licensed premises.
- Contain a pictogram that shows a firearm within a red circle and a diagonal red line across the firearm.
- Contain the words, "no firearms allowed pursuant to A.R.S. section 4-229".
C. It is an affirmative defense to a violation of subsection B of this section if:
- The person was not informed of the notice prescribed in subsection A of this section before the violation.
- Any one or more of the following apply:
D. The department of liquor licenses and control shall prepare the signs required by this section and make them available at no cost to licensees.
- (a) At the time of the violation the notice prescribed in subsection A of this section had fallen down.
- (b) At the time of the violation the person was not a resident of this state.
- (c) The licensee had posted the notice prescribed in subsection A of this section not more than thirty days before the violation.