Have you ever had to draw or use the gun you carry?

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So not to be that guy but one why didn't you already have a round in the chamber and two why draw your gun? Why not just try yelling at the dude to see what his reaction is. My SIL knows better than to ever touch my daughter. I made it clear the day they got married. You touch I touch and that he wouldn't like it.
Charlie, one thing we were taught in law enforcement, is to speak softly, not yelling. A soft voice they have to stop and listen to what you are saying. Yelling only makes the problem worse. That's true with your wife as well! I don't always remember though! Shame on me.

I agree a round in the chamber, and sometimes a show of real force is all that is needed.

But I learned how to talk violent persons out of their rage. I am not a large powerful person, but I've been able to talk some dangerous people into getting into my patrol car No force involved. and we didn't have cages back then either! .
Add to that I hadn't cuffed either one! I had a great Sgt in charge that night and he helped de-fuze the situation without arresting either one!
The COP felt the cages gave the wrong impression to the public, never mind the safety of his officers!!!!! o_O
Gabby
 
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Charlie, one thing we were taught in law enforcement, is to speak softly, not yelling. A soft voice they have to stop and listen to what you are saying. Yelling only makes the problem worse. That's true with your wife as well! I don't always remember though! Shame on me.

I agree a round in the chamber, and sometimes a show of real force is all that is needed.

But I learned how to talk violent persons out of their rage. I am not a large powerful person, but I've been able to talk some dangerous people into getting into my patrol car No force involved. and we didn't have cages back then either! .
Add to that I hadn't cuffed either one! I had a great Sgt in charge that night and he helped de-fuze the situation without arresting either one!
The COP felt the cages gave the wrong impression to the public, never mind the safety of his officers!!!!! o_O
Gabby
With my size I have been lucky in the fact that I don't have to yell or get angry. Most of them back down if you just show that you are not afraid of them and maybe thumb your shirt:D
 
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Gasoline, you would likely be playing a harp! Or burned badly at a minimum, and still paying for a gas station!
Gabby
I saw a fight at a gas station once. it was interesting!
A guy was gassing his car about three rows over from me. another car pulls in and 4 thugs jump out and run at the guy at the pump. Words were thrown out, But when the 4 got close enough the guy pulls the hose out and sprays the 4 down with gas! And then pulls out a bic lighter! One of the thugs had a gun. Gas Boy said go ahead and fire that! You will go up like a torch! after that there were more harsh words and a few threats but no one wanted to get too near gas boy! And then everyone drove off!
If Gas Boy was scared at all he didn't show it! DR
 
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When I was in field training my FTO informed me I would have to learn to swear. He said using profanity was the only way to get respect from subjects. Not long after, I drew my gun on a couple of gang bangers. It was dark and I ordered them to show me their hands. One of them reached into his pants and I said, in my normal command voice, "Show me your hands or I'm going to shoot you." I let it hang there for a few seconds and he slowly showed me his hands. My FTO came over and said, "You may not have to learn how to swear. You sounded pretty convincing."

If you can't get respect w/o using profanity, you aren't going to get it. Always keep in mind, there are going to be eye/ear witnesses testifying to what you said. The little old lady juror may not look so favorably on you if she is told of a profanity laced, screaming command. It can become a major issue if you are charged with manslaughter.
 

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A guy was gassing his car about three rows over from me. Another car pulls in and 4 thugs jump out and run at the guy at the pump. Words were thrown out but when the 4 got close enough, the guy pulls the hose out and sprays the 4 down with gas! And then pulls out a bic lighter! One of the thugs had a gun. Gas Boy said go ahead and fire that! You will go up like a torch! After that there were more harsh words and a few threats, but no one wanted to get too near Gas Boy! And then everyone drove off! If Gas Boy was scared at all he didn't show it!
An incident like that would make for a great scene in an action-hero movie. Can't you just see Bruce Willis as Gas Boy? Yippie-kai-yay, you miserable batsards!
 
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I have as a friend a retired prison guard, who is nuttier than a bed bug.
He stands about 6'3" and about 225 or 250# but isn't in fighting condition any longer.
He has been clubbed , stabbed you name it after over 20 years, and he loved it, and actually fed on the pain.
Needless to say that since they couldn't carry firearms, a sap or or night stick and some mace was about all they had,
to control some really bad dudes.
They were a bunch of really tough guys themselves, him included.
Some of his stories would curdle your milk for sure!
He still loves what he did back then. I wish my memory were better, so I could re-tell them here, but I can't.
I'm sorry, :(
Gabby
 
First time:

I used to carry an M60 for Big Green, I used it... a time or two.




Second time:

A couple years later I was assigned to PSD duty for the USAREUR CINC while stationed in Germany (this is when the Baader-Meinhof/Red Army Faction BS was still a “thing”)

One night (about 2230hrs and dark as HELL) I was in full battle-rattle manning a perimeter access point that actually led into a dead end road to an apple orchard as part of the “maze” we set up during “Operation Able Archer” (war games, except we actually carried live rounds as security of the General staff and the CP/HQ), and this small “euro” car full of people comes STREAKING by me going at least 45mph.

I remember it sounded JUST LIKE an M151 (Army Jeep) driving by.... anyway, I knew they weren’t going anywhere because it led to a very muddy orchard and the only way back was through.... me. Sure enough I heard the car coming back, so I stepped out of the bushes into their headlights and made a “show” of chambering my M16 and then held it at the low-ready (it was already chambered, but I faked working the CH so they got the message it was loaded)... they screech to a halt, and I see it’s a bunch a teenagers (about to soil themselves) and I determine they’re just local dickheads out joyriding and had no idea they were in a restricted area... they tried to feign they didn’t understand what I was saying, but since after WW2 (West) Germans were taught ESL in school growing up so they’re like cue balls; the harder you smack ‘em the more English you get out of them... they got the message.

I didn’t bother making a report (I HATED doing paperwork!) ;)



Third time:

Some years ago two thugs outside on the sidewalk were kicking my fence because my dog (dared to) barked at them. I stepped out to the sidewalk and told them to quit kicking my fence, and they told me to F off and said they’d kick my a$$ as they walked towards me, one started to flank off to my right so I knew it was on... I carried a G30 at the time and pulled it on them, they froze solid in place and I let them look down the bore for 3-4 seconds (that’s an eternity while looking at a .45 bore pointed at you), and told them to GTFO of MY neighborhood. Never saw them again, ever.



Fourth time:

This one may not “count” as drawing on someone, but late last year (while my wife was in Australia for several months visiting family) I was sitting in my living room one evening after work trying to relax and get ready to go to bed, this car load of young dickheads parks on the street across from my house and they have the car stereo blasting away with the “rap crap” that kids listen to today.

I realize I live in the suburbs, and I don’t freak out every time someone is “thoughtless”, but I can hear this sheite in my house over the top of my TV going (and it’s loud) and the car windows were even rolled up, so after about 20 minutes of this I’ve had enough. Since I can see there’s four of them and one of me (that’s about fair odds for me, LOL) I decide to saddle up with one of “the twins” on a single-point sling slung low, (not waving it around or anything, and actually all professional looking... yes, BTW its chambered) and I go up to the driver-side window.

They didn’t even see me walk up, or standing there because they were all looking down at their smart-phones... LMAO! So I rap on the driver’s window (thumb on the safety lever ready to go if needed) and the guy startled so suddenly that he damed near hit his head on the car roof. I’m projecting that I’m not even slightly amused, so he rolls his window down and all of their eyes are glued to my kit (BTW- very politely presented) and I ask if they have business around here.

Turns out he was waiting for his little brother to get out of catechism (I live across from a RC church), but the music they were listening to was FILTHY... the whole “yo, got muh niggahs and ho’s” BS, so I’m dubious about their story for a bit until I see that the church is indeed running catechism class for the next generation of sheep to be shorn.

So I explained their trespasses against the neighborhood and that they should be more considerate of their actions and their impact on the people around them instead of being self-centered and not caring. I never yelled, got tense, or cussed at them, and they quickly apologized and complied with my “request”.

“Peace through strength” prevailed, but had they chosen to get violent the car and sidewalk would have been painted red. I’ll be damned if that wasn’t the most polite and agreeable car load of young punks I ever saw... I can’t imagine why. LOL


...and before anyone says it, EVERYTHING that I did was perfectly legal where live, open carry is legal plus I have a CHL and the “twins” are actually “pistols”




BTW- here are “the twins”. ;)
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