My friend was asking me about a couple of his firearms, in case he needs to sell them (value wise). One of them had an optic on it. I asked him it he would sell the optic separately - he said he would. I offered him $500 and he said that would be fine. So, I now own a Trijicon 4x32 w/ Red Dual III .223 Chevron reticle ACOG optic (with the original case).